It’s really sad to see Elizabeth try to debate Ventura here. She ranked 4th on Survivor and is married to a former backup NFL quarterback. That’s it. What makes her think she has any credibility to take on Jesse Ventura, a former US Navy Seal who has actually been water boarded, on the issue of water boarding? I think Elizabeth should have been there to listen and learn, rather than debate on this issue. She comes across as arrogant, ignorant, and childish.